Purpose Driven Porn: Now You See It, Now You Don't

Update # 3 Purpose Driven Porn

In November 2006 when Joseph Farah challenged Rick Warren's visit to Syria, it resulted in a "yanked" YOUTUBE video by Saddleback. The video revealed statements that Warren had made during the Syrian visit. Statements that Rick Warren made later regarding the visit appeared contradictory, to say the least, to those statements made on the original video that was yanked, while Warren walked the streets of Damascus.

Joseph Farah chronicled Warren's credibility issue in January 2007...

"There's a pattern here. Warren went to Syria and recorded himself praising the totalitarian police state and its dictator. Then he denied saying what he said. "

"Then, after removing a video recording from YouTube, he denied any recordings were made in Syria. Then he told his congregation he had recorded some 12 hours of his trip through Syria and Africa."

"Warren apologized to me for defending his actions and presumably misrepresenting the truth. Then he told his congregation in writing that the controversy over his trip was just being stirred up by satanically inspired Internet pundits."

"Then he told me he was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Then his assistant denied membership."

Fast Forward to May, 2007

Saddleback's "Now You See It, No You Don't" damage control effort continues...
In Update # 2, we saw an article "disappear" after being posted on London's Christian Today. Now another disappearing act occurs, this time at the Purpose Driven site...

Rick Warren: Saddleback Response to Murdoch/Porn Issue Suddenly Disappears!
Ingrid Schlueter over at Slice of Laodicea provides the link to Saddleback’s "Chief of Staff" David Chrzan’s response to the newstory Murdoch’s porn pastor gets heat for mogul’s porn channels from A Rick Warren Blog. A response that Saddleback "Spin Doctor" Mark Kelly had called, "a forceful reply to Joseph Farah of World Net Daily." Well that is, Ingrid did have the link until…apparently the Saddleback censors have once again gobbled up a piece–but this time from one of their own!

Rick Warren: Saddleback’s Purpose Driven Censors Didn’t Spin Fast Enough
Christian Research Net readers will recall a piece here yesterday called Rick Warren: Saddleback Response to Murdoch/Porn Issue Suddenly Disappears! In it I pointed out that before the long arm of the Saddleback censors reached out to gobble it up Ingrid Schlueter over at Slice of Laodicea had provided the link from A Rick Warren Blog which contained Saddleback "Chief of Staff" David Chrzan’s response to the newstory Murdoch’s porn pastor gets heat for mogul’s porn channels by World Net Daily’s Joseph Farah. A response that Saddleback "Spin Doctor" Mark Kelly had called, "a forceful reply to Joseph Farah of World Net Daily."
Well, it turns out that in this case the Saddleback censors simply didn’t spin fast enough because here is the link to a screen shot of Mark Kelly’s Saddleback "hit piece" No Incentive for Checking facts as it originally appeared in the public domain of the Internet yesterday. One really has to wonder; why was Kelly forced to take it down? Could it actually be that Rick Warren and Saddleback decided to discipline one of their own in Mark Kelly for spreading lies about Joseph Farah of WND and Chris Rosebrough and me here at CRN?

Anatomy of Saddleback Spin - Part One
When evidence appears on the internet of Rick Warren or members of his church saying or doing things that are out of step with the truth or could be damaging to his image these things have a habit of disappearing from the web. A very well documented case of this occurred in November 2006 when Rick Warren travelled to Syria and was reportedly making statements that were favorable to the Syrian government and their policies regarding religious tolerance.

Anatomy of Saddleback Spin - Part Two
In this article I am going to outline the highlights of the lies, smears, misdirection and sophistry employed by Mark Kelly and David Chrzan in the rebuttal piece written by Kelly entitle “No incentive for checking facts”. Although the article was pulled off the internet almost a quickly as it was posted, I’ve managed to reconstruct a copy of it from screen shots that I took of it. Click Here to Read It.

RICK WARREN: A PORNOGRAPHIC PURPOSE DRIVEN RESPONSE TO JOSEPH FARAH, CHRIS ROSEBROUGH AND KEN SILVA
"Yesterday Saddleback “Spin Doctor” Mark Kelly, whose official title is News and Editorial Director for Saddleback Church – Purpose Driven Network, wrote a post called No Incentive for Checking facts. I cover this a little further in Rick Warren: Saddleback’s Purpose Driven Censors Didn’t Spin Fast Enough so here I just point out that it was suddenly pulled without explanation after but hours online. At this point we still don’t know why the “News and Editorial Director” for Rick Warren would be told to remove his newsworthy post, which also contained Saddleback “Chief of Staff” David Chrzan’s allegedly “forceful reply to Joseph Farah of World Net Daily.”

Rick Warren's & Rupert Murdoch's Porn problem...
Posted by: Kevin McCullough at Townhall.com at 12:59 PMOne thing is certain, Joseph Farah and Rick Warren will never be buddies. And by a biblical measure maybe they never should be. Rick Warren is in large part, one of the problems when it comes to why Christianity as it is expressed in the "seeker sensitive" circles today has become nearly useless.

WorldNet Daily: Murdoch pastor gets heat for mogul's porn channels
Christian leaders question Rick Warren for church's cozy ties with Fox owner. Joseph Farah of WorldNet Daily Mega-pastor Rick Warren is being challenged by other Christian leaders for not disciplining a prominent member of his California Saddleback Church flock for being one of the world's leading pornographers.

Mega-Church Pastor Rick Warren Under Fire over Media Mogul Parishioner's Porn Channels
By Gudrun SchultzCalifornia, May 11, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Christian leaders in the US are demanding that the pastor of a massive US evangelical church discipline a prominent parishioner for involvement in the pornography industry.

Watcher's Lamp Update #2 and # 1